Red Planet
Forum for the anti-capitalist left.

Home » Misc. » Meta » Improving design
Show: Today's Messages :: Show Polls :: Message Navigator
Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
icon1.gif  Improving design [message #97] Mon, 21 January 2019 12:47 Go to next message
Ackoli
Messages: 42
Registered: January 2019
This forum is functional, but has a few design problems that I think could be fixed with just a few changes to sprites an boxes to make it look more "modern". I hate "modern" aesthetics in websites, but it is necessary to attract normies. Anyway, here are my suggestions:

- Change the curve edges in the top box to squared ones.
- Change he icons next to the "Private messaging", "Members", "search", "help", "control panel", etc to a single color scheme of two colors (Probably red and black). This creates a unified color scheme improving the aesthetics. Change most colored icons to the same color scheme as well, improving the feel of the website.

I think that those would help create a more aesthetically pleasing website. I don't know if you can actually do any of the things I suggested, but I think it will help if you can.
Re: Improving design [message #100 is a reply to message #97] Mon, 21 January 2019 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl
Messages: 87
Registered: January 2019
I am willing to create graphics for the site, including banners & buttons. I just need to know what's wanted.

Also, since not everyone likes the same layout themes, if there's a way to give users the option to switch between themes that would be great.
Re: Improving design [message #109 is a reply to message #100] Mon, 21 January 2019 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
Go with flat design, that's what's popular.
Re: Improving design [message #111 is a reply to message #109] Mon, 21 January 2019 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
To me the design isn't important as long as the text is legible, so I don't really want to spend time on this. I like the way it looks now.

You can find the forum css here: https://leftist.site/theme/default/forum.css. Edit it (you can use your browser's inspect element to test out changes) and once you have something you're happy with I'll add it as a theme that people can choose in their account preferences.
Re: Improving design [message #118 is a reply to message #111] Mon, 21 January 2019 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grabbag
Messages: 13
Registered: January 2019
Just nitpicking but I'd get an old fashioned TLD. All these new ones just come off as hipstery in my opinion.

Edit: and make it so that quick reply doesn't reply to the last post

[Updated on: Mon, 21 January 2019 23:55]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Improving design [message #120 is a reply to message #118] Tue, 22 January 2019 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
Test.
Re: Improving design [message #121 is a reply to message #118] Tue, 22 January 2019 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
grabbag
Edit: and make it so that quick reply doesn't reply to the last post
What do you mean?
Re: Improving design [message #133 is a reply to message #100] Tue, 22 January 2019 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Durruti
Messages: 21
Registered: January 2019
Karl wrote on Mon, 21 January 2019 16:18
if there's a way to give users the option to switch between themes that would be great.
I realise this isn't what you're getting at, but the whole point of CSS is that a user can choose their own instead of accepting it from the site.
I use the "Dark Background Light Text" extension for firefox which gives me a consistent coloursceme on every site (doesn't have to be light text or a dark background either), but other extensions can change the CSS even more drastically.

Still, newfolks might find it cool to have different themes available.

/index.php?t=getfile&id=19&private=0
Re: Improving design [message #134 is a reply to message #121] Wed, 23 January 2019 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grabbag
Messages: 13
Registered: January 2019
kapo
What do you mean?
The "Quick reply" button makes it so that the post you make will be a reply to the one over it, even if it addresses the OP or something else entirely. I'm just nitpicking really.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 January 2019 04:32]

Report message to a moderator

icon6.gif  Re: Improving design [message #222 is a reply to message #134] Mon, 11 February 2019 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peebles
Messages: 9
Registered: February 2019
Is there ever going to be avatars allowed? Like, if we are going for the full forum effect we need to have avatars yo.
Re: Improving design [message #251 is a reply to message #222] Fri, 15 February 2019 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Avatars shouldn't be animated and not take up more screen space than the poop emoji.
Re: Improving design [message #268 is a reply to message #251] Mon, 18 February 2019 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
I think Avatars would cause more problems than they would solve. Who's to decide what kinds of avatars are allowed, whether NSFW avatars should be allowed? What about 'ironic' or joke avatars? I also think it would detract from the discussion. It's another irrelevant thing to talk about and I don't think time should be wasted on it.

Is there a reason for avatars others than avatars being a part of forums and the forum experience?

[Updated on: Mon, 18 February 2019 22:52]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Improving design [message #274 is a reply to message #268] Wed, 20 February 2019 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
I'm fascinated with this forum because I have a terrible 00's nostalgia but there are many long gone design paradigms that are bothering me a little.
Like how there isn't just a "post" button and that you have to preview your post on a different page. I would like if we could move to a more modern software or make our own but migrating the posts that we have will make that a complicated job.

Quote:
Is there a reason for avatars others than avatars being a part of forums and the forum experience?
Telling people apart with more ease.
Re: Improving design [message #275 is a reply to message #268] Thu, 21 February 2019 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peebles
Messages: 9
Registered: February 2019
who gives a shit, you offended by sexy forum avatars or something?
icon6.gif  Re: Improving design [message #281 is a reply to message #275] Fri, 22 February 2019 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl
Messages: 87
Registered: January 2019
We should have pre-selected avatars. And they can only be My Little Pony characters.
Re: Improving design [message #291 is a reply to message #281] Sun, 24 February 2019 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
I find this software very interesting
https://github.com/tssund93/Ignorama
mix of a forum and an imageboard but we will need to inspect it more closely.
Re: Improving design [message #357 is a reply to message #291] Tue, 19 March 2019 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
Purged wrote on Sun, 24 February 2019 21:19
I find this software very interesting
https://github.com/tssund93/Ignorama
mix of a forum and an imageboard but we will need to inspect it more closely.
I checked that out when looking for forum software for this site. If you go to the demo board, it takes forever to load two topics. I'm afraid it's too slow.
Re: Improving design [message #365 is a reply to message #357] Tue, 19 March 2019 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
Aww bummer.
Maybe make a pull request about that
Re: Red Planet [message #400 is a reply to message #274] Sun, 24 March 2019 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
those anon comments on this thread seem like bots, eerie
Re: Red Planet [message #401 is a reply to message #400] Sun, 24 March 2019 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pato
Messages: 17
Registered: January 2019
Right now the bots aren't much but I wonder if it will get worse
Re: Red Planet [message #410 is a reply to message #400] Sun, 24 March 2019 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ted_burbclave
Messages: 23
Registered: March 2019
I know that's pretty weird, there should be a way to keep bots from posting.
Re: Red Planet [message #417 is a reply to message #410] Mon, 25 March 2019 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
ted_burbclave wrote on Sun, 24 March 2019 23:45
I know that's pretty weird, there should be a way to keep bots from posting.
Captcha for posts would prevent that, but then some people don't like it. Requiring registration to post everywhere also annoys people. It is hard to make everyone happy. I'm OK with removing bot posts until they get too numerous. I believe there is a cool down between Anonymous posts, as well.

Edit: to add, anonymous users can't post links or pictures, either. Bot text posts pretty harmless, imo, and as long as they stay a small annoyance, especially when they're so obvious, I don't think they're a big problem. And they can only post in social and meta.

[Updated on: Mon, 25 March 2019 10:06]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Red Planet [message #428 is a reply to message #417] Mon, 25 March 2019 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl
Messages: 87
Registered: January 2019
kapo wrote on Mon, 25 March 2019 10:03

Captcha for posts would prevent that, but then some people don't like it. Requiring registration to post everywhere also annoys people. It is hard to make everyone happy. I'm OK with removing bot posts until they get too numerous. I believe there is a cool down between Anonymous posts, as well.
Registering is fast and easy and requires no identifiable information. The people who complain about it are not worth listening to, IMO.
Re: Red Planet [message #431 is a reply to message #428] Mon, 25 March 2019 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ted_burbclave
Messages: 23
Registered: March 2019
Here's a potential logo I quickly did in ps in some classic sci-fi font:

https://imgur.com/a0vbmCK

https://imgur.com/gallery/c1Tipcc

https://imgur.com/gallery/bTe53fj

[Updated on: Tue, 26 March 2019 00:38]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Red Planet [message #436 is a reply to message #431] Tue, 26 March 2019 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
Nice. I really like it. Would you be able to make it into a high-res transparent .png?
Re: Red Planet [message #465 is a reply to message #417] Thu, 28 March 2019 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Durruti
Messages: 21
Registered: January 2019
If we do get a capcha, can we please not use Google's reCapcha? It allows google to individually identify every user and becomes more awkward the more a user tries to protect their privacy.

There should be some kind of self hosted solution available which doesn't send data to any 3rd parties.

Not that I'm advocating capcha, I'd rather just sign in to post.
Re: Red Planet [message #468 is a reply to message #465] Thu, 28 March 2019 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Karl
Messages: 87
Registered: January 2019
I agree with Durruti. Signing in takes about 5 seconds and it's a small price to pay for not having bots. Plus, people only need to sign in to make posts but not if they want to read them.
Re: Red Planet [message #469 is a reply to message #468] Thu, 28 March 2019 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
Right now you only have to solve captcha once to register. After that it doesn't ask you ever again. I can turn off anonymous posting in Social and Meta. I'd like to leave it on in Meta, in case people have trouble signing it, or want to criticise/complain anonymously.

Durruti
It allows google to individually identify every user and becomes more awkward the more a user tries to protect their privacy.
While I agree with you that privacy is important and google does collect information, recaptcha came with the forum. I will look for another captcha solution.
Re: Red Planet [message #510 is a reply to message #469] Mon, 08 April 2019 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
People is criticizing the site and I felt it's relevant
https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/136645.html
Quote:
It's not anonymous
Quote:
Leftist.site will either turn to revleft 2.0, /r/socialism 2.0, or will turn into /leftyb/ general.
Quote:
>not anonymous
>more secret police (mods) than proles (users)
typical tankiddie
Quote:
>looks like a board from 15 years ago
>putting leftist stuff on its own site where it's guaranteed anybody who wants to fuck with it won't piss off anybody else if they do, won't paint a huge target on that site for both autright skiddies and glow-in-the-darks
>NAMEFAGGOTRY
n-no thanks
Maybe we should had been an image board since the start
Re: Red Planet [message #511 is a reply to message #510] Mon, 08 April 2019 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
"It's not anonymous"
Stupid comment, because it is anonymous. 8ch logs your IP address as well. The owner of 8ch can see everyone who connects. Besides, Tor posting is enabled on this forum.

"Leftist.site will either turn to revleft 2.0, /r/socialism 2.0, or will turn into /leftyb/ general."
That's a positive comment! I wish this site survives long enough to turn into something. Let's hope it's RevLeft 2.0 Smile

"more secret police (mods) than proles (users) typical tankiddie"
Yes. And every mod/two have a separate subforum, rather than having 3 moderators for the whole site, which can hopefully reduce mod abuses. I'm not saying you guys will abuse your power, but I feel it can add a sense of 'security' for the users. Also, the person who made that comment is working under the assumption that mods are inherently bad, just shows you their experience on online forums/imageboards has been negative.

"tankiddie"
Hilarious.

"looks like a board from 15 years ago"
So does 4chan. Futaba/Yotsuba are just as old, if not older.

"putting leftist stuff on its own site where it's guaranteed anybody who wants to fuck with it won't piss off anybody else if they do, won't paint a huge target on that site for both autright skiddies and glow-in-the-darks"
I don't think sharing a site with neo-nazis and terrorist is a better option.

"NAMEFAGGOTRY"
This forum has aliases, so you can change your display name. Furthermore, there isn't a limit to how many user accounts you can create or use. This site is about discussion, not identities.

Purged
Maybe we should had been an image board since the start
Chans allow for fast discussion on certain topics. Anonymous posting is useful because you never know if an expert in the board's topic might be lurking and wants to make a post, without any commitment to a user account. That isn't so important for our purposes, leftists who lurk leftist website don't have problems creating accounts.

Like I wrote in the first post on /left(y)pol/ when I started the site:
Quote:
I feel that being limited to an imageboard, without archiving and good threads that just disappear isn't ideal for our type of discussion. It's fine for consumer interests, where new fads and fashions allow for recycling of threads and discussion of the same topics. For our purposes to be able to search through discussions that already happened is fantastic. How many times do we need to answer the same questions, repeating the same talking points ad nauseam?

I see the value of anonymous imageboards. I enjoy posting on several, in fact. I've just stopped expecting any kind of 'serious' discussion, advice or sense of community. You may laugh at that last bit, but right-wingers globally have their own communities, websites, discord, they even do meet-ups. In my own city someone advertised a "Traditionalist Meet Up", basically for "classic libertarians" who want to go back to a simpler time in the past. What the left has is sectarian pockets of people who think they alone follow the true Marxism/Communism (bit of a People's Front of Judaea vs Judean People's Front vs The Popular Front situation).
Re: Red Planet [message #512 is a reply to message #511] Mon, 08 April 2019 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
Those are all good reasons plus we do allow anonymous posting, I should tell the people on that thread about that. Our only issue are the images.
Re: Red Planet [message #588 is a reply to message #357] Tue, 30 April 2019 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Purged
Messages: 115
Registered: January 2019
This thread has become a nest of both but it specially bothers me that they use 'weblog'
Spammer please update your bots
Re: Red Planet [message #591 is a reply to message #588] Wed, 01 May 2019 08:58 Go to previous message
kapo
Messages: 65
Registered: January 2019

Administrator
I don't get the spam bots. Are they attempting to post links as well? Or are they just meant to make a blog look like there's a lot of views/traffic?
  Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
Previous Topic: Should red planet be an image board
Next Topic: Status of Red Planet?
Goto Forum:
  

-=] Back to Top [=-
[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [ RSS ] [ PDF ]

Current Time: Thu Aug 22 07:53:42 UTC 2019

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.04211 seconds